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Mach3 on computer with Parallel port & windows 10.

 

My old computer with XP crashed & I have found another one with a parallel port on it but it has windows 10. I have down loaded Mach3 onto it, but it does not appear to be down loading the driver. I have ran a driver test & the the result is an instant message saying there is not a driver. Mach3 will load & will function on screen with the keyboard arrows but the machine will not move. My parallel port connects to a Xylotex 4.03 board, which controls a Tiag bench top mill. I read some where that in order to use this computer I was going have to buy a different controller, is this true? If so, what controller do o need to acquire ? I really don’t understand all this stuff other than what I have read on the Artsoft page & Visio’s on YouTube. I’m going to be bald before I get this figured out. (No offense  e to bald folks) 
 

The parallel port driver that Mach3 uses doesn’t work with Win10.  You’ll need to go back to Win7 (or XP) for it to work.

 

Tony

 

 

From: MachCNC@groups.io <MachCNC@groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Neilson via groups.io
Sent: Monday, 27 November 2023 7:44 AM
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Subject: [MachCNC] Mach3 on computer with Parallel port & windows 10.

 

My old computer with XP crashed & I have found another one with a parallel port on it but it has windows 10. I have down loaded Mach3 onto it, but it does not appear to be down loading the driver. I have ran a driver test & the the result is an instant message saying there is not a driver. Mach3 will load & will function on screen with the keyboard arrows but the machine will not move. My parallel port connects to a Xylotex 4.03 board, which controls a Tiag bench top mill. I read some where that in order to use this computer I was going have to buy a different controller, is this true? If so, what controller do o need to acquire ? I really don’t understand all this stuff other than what I have read on the Artsoft page & Visio’s on YouTube. I’m going to be bald before I get this figured out. (No offense  e to bald folks) 

 

As Tony said, you can use Win 7 (but it must be the 32 bit version) or you could use a USB to parallel port control dongle such as the UCC-100. Be wary of eBay sellers that may be offering knock-offs of this device. In case you are wondering why I am not suggesting the PMDX-411, it only works with Mach4.


From: MachCNC@groups.io [mailto:MachCNC@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Smith
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2023 4:03 PM
To: MachCNC@groups.io
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Mach3 on computer with Parallel port & windows 10.

The parallel port driver that Mach3 uses doesn’t work with Win10.  You’ll need to go back to Win7 (or XP) for it to work.

 

Tony

 

 

From: MachCNC@groups.io <MachCNC@groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Neilson via groups.io
Sent: Monday, 27 November 2023 7:44 AM
To: MachCNC@groups.io
Subject: [MachCNC] Mach3 on computer with Parallel port & windows 10.

 

My old computer with XP crashed & I have found another one with a parallel port on it but it has windows 10. I have down loaded Mach3 onto it, but it does not appear to be down loading the driver. I have ran a driver test & the the result is an instant message saying there is not a driver. Mach3 will load & will function on screen with the keyboard arrows but the machine will not move. My parallel port connects to a Xylotex 4.03 board, which controls a Tiag bench top mill. I read some where that in order to use this computer I was going have to buy a different controller, is this true? If so, what controller do o need to acquire ? I really don’t understand all this stuff other than what I have read on the Artsoft page & Visio’s on YouTube. I’m going to be bald before I get this figured out. (No offense  e to bald folks) 

 

Hey Steve, if I go the route of the ucc-100 dongle, is there any other changes I need to make or be aware of. I’m loudly like to stay with windows 10 if possible, just for the fact XP & 7 are obsolete already & 10 have a little more support left in it. I found this on amazon…
 

Hi Jim,

MACH3 doesn’t work with Ethernet to parallel port dongles.  The way it does stepping and reading encoders doesn’t with that model.

 

I’m using USB SMoothstepper but it’s not recommended for new designs and there may not even be a driver for WIN-10.  Instead the Ethernet Smoothstepper is a better choice.  But since the smooth steppers came out more than 10 years ago there are a lot more similar types of units.  The main thing is they do the stepping pulses and high speed work under direction from MACH3.  A parallel port dongle is not the same thing.

 

John

 

 

 

From: MachCNC@groups.io [mailto:MachCNC@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Neilson via groups.io
Sent: November 26, 2023 3:05 PM
To: MachCNC@groups.io
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Mach3 on computer with Parallel port & windows 10.

 

Hey Steve, if I go the route of the ucc-100 dongle, is there any other changes I need to make or be aware of. I’m loudly like to stay with windows 10 if possible, just for the fact XP & 7 are obsolete already & 10 have a little more support left in it. I found this on amazon…

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I think John got some words mixed up. True, a generic parallel dongle designed for running printers will not work for running a Mach controlled CNC machine, but the USB based UC100 from CNCdrive and the Ethernet SmoothStepper are motion controllers, not generic parallel port dongles. These are known to work for Mach3 under Windows 10. Sorry for calling it a UCC100, the correct model number is UC100.
 
The one that you showed from Amazon appears to be the real deal despite the "sponsored" Sewell generic dongle being promoted directly above it in the page presented on Amazon. Be sure that the one you buy is the CNCdrive brand and avoid the Chinese knock-offs like those being offered on Ali Express.
 
Steve Stallings


From: MachCNC@groups.io [mailto:MachCNC@groups.io] On Behalf Of John Dammeyer
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2023 6:38 PM
To: MachCNC@groups.io
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Mach3 on computer with Parallel port & windows 10.

Hi Jim,

MACH3 doesn’t work with Ethernet to parallel port dongles.  The way it does stepping and reading encoders doesn’t with that model.

 

I’m using USB SMoothstepper but it’s not recommended for new designs and there may not even be a driver for WIN-10.  Instead the Ethernet Smoothstepper is a better choice.  But since the smooth steppers came out more than 10 years ago there are a lot more similar types of units.  The main thing is they do the stepping pulses and high speed work under direction from MACH3.  A parallel port dongle is not the same thing.

 

John

 

 

 

From: MachCNC@groups.io [mailto:MachCNC@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Neilson via groups.io
Sent: November 26, 2023 3:05 PM
To: MachCNC@groups.io
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Mach3 on computer with Parallel port & windows 10.

 

Hey Steve, if I go the route of the ucc-100 dongle, is there any other changes I need to make or be aware of. I’m loudly like to stay with windows 10 if possible, just for the fact XP & 7 are obsolete already & 10 have a little more support left in it. I found this on amazon…

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XP may be obsolete, but it was working just fine before your old PC died.  If you’re only going to run Mach3 on the new one (and you should be) what exactly is Win10 going to give you?

 

I run Win7 & Mach3 on an old Dell, works fine.  I don’t use that machine for anything else.

 

Tony

 

From: MachCNC@groups.io <MachCNC@groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Neilson via groups.io
Sent: Monday, 27 November 2023 10:05 AM
To: MachCNC@groups.io
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Mach3 on computer with Parallel port & windows 10.

 

Hey Steve, if I go the route of the ucc-100 dongle, is there any other changes I need to make or be aware of. I’m loudly like to stay with windows 10 if possible, just for the fact XP & 7 are obsolete already & 10 have a little more support left in it. I found this on amazon…

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I agree with Tony on this one. Two machines one on XP and the other on W7. Not connected to anything else.

Steve

On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 10:36:42 PM CST, Tony Smith <ajsmith1968@...> wrote:


XP may be obsolete, but it was working just fine before your old PC died.  If you’re only going to run Mach3 on the new one (and you should be) what exactly is Win10 going to give you?

 

I run Win7 & Mach3 on an old Dell, works fine.  I don’t use that machine for anything else.

 

Tony

 

From: MachCNC@groups.io <MachCNC@groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Neilson via groups.io
Sent: Monday, 27 November 2023 10:05 AM
To: MachCNC@groups.io
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Mach3 on computer with Parallel port & windows 10.

 

Hey Steve, if I go the route of the ucc-100 dongle, is there any other changes I need to make or be aware of. I’m loudly like to stay with windows 10 if possible, just for the fact XP & 7 are obsolete already & 10 have a little more support left in it. I found this on amazon…

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All cnc should be isolated and used for cnc only. I'm an auto service tech by day. I see other shops jacking up there alignment machines all the time due to running them on a network to play games or whatever. Dumb. Leave these pcs dedicated for there intended use only. Cnc no different. Win xp works great as a dedicated controller. I have several machines running mach 3 for many years. 

From: MachCNC@groups.io <MachCNC@groups.io> on behalf of Stephen Muscato via groups.io <elko_dude@...>
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2023 10:40:10 PM
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I agree with Tony on this one. Two machines one on XP and the other on W7. Not connected to anything else.

Steve

On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 10:36:42 PM CST, Tony Smith <ajsmith1968@...> wrote:


XP may be obsolete, but it was working just fine before your old PC died.  If you’re only going to run Mach3 on the new one (and you should be) what exactly is Win10 going to give you?

 

I run Win7 & Mach3 on an old Dell, works fine.  I don’t use that machine for anything else.

 

Tony

 

From: MachCNC@groups.io <MachCNC@groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Neilson via groups.io
Sent: Monday, 27 November 2023 10:05 AM
To: MachCNC@groups.io
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Mach3 on computer with Parallel port & windows 10.

 

Hey Steve, if I go the route of the ucc-100 dongle, is there any other changes I need to make or be aware of. I’m loudly like to stay with windows 10 if possible, just for the fact XP & 7 are obsolete already & 10 have a little more support left in it. I found this on amazon…

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When first setting up my milling machine I dual booted my PC between WIN-XP and LinuxCNC.  Tested things with both Linux and the PC using either the parallel port or the USB SmoothStepper which I borrowed from my CNC router running… you guessed it WIN-XP.

Eventually I went with LinuxCNC since the MESA 7i92H with Linux gave me more possibilities with CAN bus networking.

 

In both cases, the CNC router and Mill I’m using the PMDX-125 on the router and PMDX-126 on the mill.    The PMDX-125/6 has a nice clean interface into the SmoothSteppers.

 

I was finally forced into WIN-10 last spring but given a choice I’d still use it rather than WIN-10.   So I agree with the other replies on this subject. 

 

No real need to run WIN-10.

John

 

 

From: MachCNC@groups.io [mailto:MachCNC@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Smith
Sent: November 26, 2023 8:37 PM
To: MachCNC@groups.io
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Mach3 on computer with Parallel port & windows 10.

 

XP may be obsolete, but it was working just fine before your old PC died.  If you’re only going to run Mach3 on the new one (and you should be) what exactly is Win10 going to give you?

 

I run Win7 & Mach3 on an old Dell, works fine.  I don’t use that machine for anything else.

 

Tony

 

From: MachCNC@groups.io <MachCNC@groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Neilson via groups.io
Sent: Monday, 27 November 2023 10:05 AM
To: MachCNC@groups.io
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Mach3 on computer with Parallel port & windows 10.

 

Hey Steve, if I go the route of the ucc-100 dongle, is there any other changes I need to make or be aware of. I’m loudly like to stay with windows 10 if possible, just for the fact XP & 7 are obsolete already & 10 have a little more support left in it. I found this on amazon…

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