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Crestron CP4 and Lutron Athena through RS-232

 

Hello Group,
 
We were usually installing Lutron Grafic Eye with a Lutron QSE-CI-NWK-E RS-232 to interface with our Crestron processor and we were using the "DEVICE" command to mimic presses and releases of button from keypad or phantom keypad programmed in the Lutron system. That way, whatever changes in the Lutron programming in terms of scenes does not affect the Crestron programming.
 
We now install Lutron Athena (fro lighting and shades control) with a Lutron QSE-CI-NWK-E RS-232 interface. As written in the "Lutron integration protocol revision AH" from May 2022, the "DEVICE" command still exist and should work with Athena. Our Lutron installer provide us the "Lutron Integration Report" were I could found "ID" (note specifically Integration ID as written in the protocol document, but seems to be the same) and other "href" (ex: /device/6160) and "Component href" (ex: button/6181). The device command needs an "Integration ID", a "Component Number" an "Action Number" and a "Parameter". In the case of a press ar release action, parameter is not needed.
 
I did try several string with href and Component href without succes, I always receive an "Error, 2" (object does not exist). For example, I try to mimic a press and release of the first button of a phantom keypad
Phantom keypad ID = 90, href = /device/6170, button #1 Component href = button/6339.
Here are several unsuccessful try:
#DEVICE,63,39,3\x0D\x0A#DEVICE,63,39,4\x0D\x0A
#DEVICE,90,39,3\x0D\x0A#DEVICE,90,39,4\x0D\x0A
#DEVICE,90,63,3\x0D\x0A#DEVICE,90,63,4\x0D\x0A
#DEVICE,90,6339,3\x0D\x0A#DEVICE,90,6339,4\x0D\x0A
#DEVICE,70,39,3\x0D\x0A#DEVICE,70,39,4\x0D\x0A
 
Any help will be appreciated.
 
Also, we have several shades that we want to open and close through Crestron. The "SHADEGRP" command is working but the shade themselves are not grouped, meaning I have to send several close command but the shades does not start at the same time, then issuing a stop command and we have stair shape of shades... Any way the Lutron programmer could make grouping of several shade?
 
Thanks.
 

I have also had issues in the past with controlling phantom keypads. Not sure of it was the lighting integrator that did not configure them correctly or if it's just a function of the lutron system. I also experienced the same error. Is there no keypad in the room that you can emulate?
 
With regards to the shades, they should be able to group those. I have seen it done in the past, although I believe it was with a quantum system.
 

Thanks for your answer,
 
Yes, there is several keypads in the room, but the problem is the same with them, I receive "Error, 2".
 
Thanks anyway.
 

If the integration ID is 90, and you want to send a press for button 1, the command should be:
 
#DEVICE,90,1,3\x0D\x0A
 

Thanks for your answer,
 
This does work for a physical keypad, but does not for a phantom keypad and unfortunately, I also have to address some phantom one.
 
Thanks anyway, you solve half of my issues.
 

How are you?
I am a programmer from Japan.
This is my first post.
I have controlled Lutron Quantom in the past.
I used QSE-CI-NWK-E.
I partially controlled with phantom keypad.
#device,1000,1,3\n
#DEVICE,1000,2,3\n
~
#DEVICE,1000,7,3\n
Replace 1000 with 1001~1010
Request
DEVICE,1000,81,9\n
DEVICE,1000,82,9\n
~
DEVICE,1000,87,9\n
Lutron has been supported by another company.
Sorry for my bad English.
 

Thanks for your answer,
 
Even if I don't know from where the 1000 to 1010 come from, I give it a try but always received ~ERROR,2\x0D\x0A.
 
Thanks anyway and congratulation for your first post :-).
 

Hello Group,

 

To close this topic :

Phantom keypad could be under control if they are “linked to the QSE-CI-NWK-E interface”, this is not by default and needs to be done by the Lutron programmer.

Once available through the IP/RS-232 interface, the #DEVICE, Integration ID, Component Number, Action Number, Parameters\x0D\x0A command could be use:

  • The Integration ID is available in the Lutron Integration report (provided by the Lutron programmer),
  • The Component Number is the button number (1, 2, 3 etc…),
  • I use the Action Press and Release so 3 for Press and 4 for Release to mimic a button press and release,
  • No Parameter in that case.

 

So by sending #DEVICE,89,1,3\x0D\x0A #DEVICE,89,1,4\x0D\x0A, I mimic an press and release of the first button of the phantom keypad at ID 89. Whatever was programmed in the Lutron system for that button will fire 😊.

 

Problem solved, thanks All 😊.
 

Thanks for the follow-up.

--- On Friday, December 13, 2024 at 11:12 AM, Antoine Dervin wrote:

To close this topic:

Phantom keypad could be under control if they are “linked to the QSE-CI-NWK-E
interface”, this is not by default and needs to be done by the Lutron programmer.

Once available through the IP/RS-232 interface, the #DEVICE, Integration ID,
Component Number, Action Number, Parameters\x0D\x0A command could be use:

• The Integration ID is available in the Lutron Integration report (provided by
the Lutron programmer),
• The Component Number is the button number (1, 2, 3 etc…),
• I use the Action Press and Release so 3 for Press and 4 for Release to mimic
a button press and release,
• No Parameter in that case.

So by sending #DEVICE,89,1,3\x0D\x0A #DEVICE,89,1,4\x0D\x0A, I mimic an press
and release of the first button of the phantom keypad at ID 89. Whatever was
programmed in the Lutron system for that button will fire 😊.

Problem solved, thanks All 😊.

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