Layout editor move item not following cursor


 

Newish Acer Win11 laptop with new JMRI install.
Affects both trackpad and mouse.
 
To move an item, say an anchor point, I hover the cursor over the item, right click and while holding the right button move the mouse. The cursor follows the mouse as usual but the item massively lags/leads/jumps away from the cursor position.
What's going on, please?

Colin


 

More on this.
 
I deleted the panel, quit, open JMRI, load last saved version and moving is correct until I attempt a move of a selected item.
I was doing this in a congested part of a layout and the only way I could grab a particular anchor point.
 
Unlike the earlier attempt however clearing the selection (left click anywhere) and moving an item that I could grab by hovering works.
This seems repeatable - move of selected item does not track cursor, clear selection, move by hover works.
 
Colin


 

Colin,

You cannot select an item and then move it.  Moving is a click and drag.  You can move selected items by using "Tools -> Translate (Move) Selection".

"Options -> Turnout Options -> Set Turnout Circle Size" is used to control the size of the mouse "hot spot".  Reducing the size helps in crowded areas.  

Note: About six years ago, the turnout circle size became the "hot spot" for all mouse operations.

Dave Sand



----- Original message -----
From: "colin smith via groups.io" <colinsmithwork=hotmail.com@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Layout editor move item not following cursor
Date: Saturday, December 28, 2024 7:32 AM

More on this.
 
I deleted the panel, quit, open JMRI, load last saved version and moving is correct until I attempt a move of a selected item.
I was doing this in a congested part of a layout and the only way I could grab a particular anchor point.
 
Unlike the earlier attempt however clearing the selection (left click anywhere) and moving an item that I could grab by hovering works.
This seems repeatable - move of selected item does not track cursor, clear selection, move by hover works.
 
Colin


 

Thanks, Dave.
 
Pity on the missing move selection by rightclick n' drag. It's the sort-of-does-nearly-but-not-quite-expected that threw me.
I was aware of the translate tool but it's a very unergonomic way of working when one is used to ease of dragn'drop. Useful in some circumstances where precision is needed.
 
Reducing the turnout circle size to 1 and max zoom did just allow me to grab and separate items (anchor point) by right click. I also discovered that track segment circles are affected by the turnout circle size selection.
 
Background on the congested area.
 
My test attempt at an import from XtrackCAD. Not my whole layout but a test with a number of essential features and which I see have generated some board traffic - loops, crossover, 3-way and double slip points (I'm English!). The import was successful except for two things - the double slip (Peco SL90) which failed as unrecognised and the bolder track thickness of mainline is also applied to tracks on other layers.
The Reader documentation suggests a double slip would be imported as two throat-to-throat standard points.
Likewise documentation suggests track on a layer named mainline would be bolder than tracks on any other layer.
The import also (necessarily perhaps) has items much closer together than one may have used should the layout have been entered directly into JMRI.
 
I was trying (have now succeeded) to post process by adding a JMRI double slip into the gap left by the missing failed-import slip. The import had inserted a couple of minimum length segments which had anchor points almost on top of each other and within segment and turnout circles,
 
Colin