Re: xBitX RPi questions

 

Vic,

1. The pi on the zBitx does not come with a heatsink. We found that the Pi runs normally without one and we haven't faced any problems so far. As Farhan said earlier, none of our software is RAM intensive. Some modes like FT8 are CPU intensive but it is well within the capabilities of the Pi. The pi consumes about 250 mA of current, which at 5v is about 1.25 watts. 

2. The Pi can run realVNC and other linux software just like our sBitx units as it's running raspbian. Our sBitx and the zBitx radios can be operated remotely from any browser by simply visiting sbitx.local or zbitx.local in any internet browser. That way, you don't have to setup any vnc software. Just open up your browser, type in the address and login key, and you are good to go!

3. The real time clock chip on the board does the timekeeping and allows users to work modes like FT8. The Pi is more than capable of handling the signal processing. The onboard WiFi can also be powered up to fetch the correct time from time servers. The radio does not need any special software.

4. Will wait for him to respond.

5. The Pi zero used in the zBitx will need a microusb OTG cable/adapter to connect to devices with a regular USB port as the pi comes with microusb connectors.

Hope this answers your questions.

73 and a Happy New Year,
 
Support@...


Re: sBitX V3 Microphone input

 

Hi Charles,

The tip goes to microphone element, ring to the PTT switch, and the sleeve to ground. When you ground the ring (PTT) to sleeve (ground), the radio goes into transmit.

This is mentioned in https://www.sbitx.net/index.php/ssb-operation/

Hope this helps.

Happy New Year and 73,
Ragav
VU3VWR


Re: Zbitx

 

I looked briefly at some of his VOLUMINOUS work.   Amazing.    Each of us only have so many hours, and some of these folks have really blazed a trail for us.   I'm AMAZED at how much dynamic range these simple new radios can have -- beating my older radios handily.
 
Gordon KX4Z
 


Re: Zbitx

 

Hi Steve,
OM Farhan VU2ESE presented a prototype at the Annual LARC at Hyderabad, india on the 14th December, 2024.
About a year ago he discussed the concept with block diagrams etc.
Kind regards and Happy New year.
Sudipta VU2UT


On Mon, 30 Dec, 2024, 19:59 Jens/HB9JOI via groups.io, <hb9joi=bluewin.ch@groups.io> wrote:
 
From: Gordon Gibby KX4Z via groups.io
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2024 9:30 AM
To: BITX20@groups.io
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Zbitx
 
I wish I knew as much about radios as Ashhar does!
 
When I was a Novice, way back in the 1970's, I was concerned over the difference between this radio with 0.5 microvolt "sensitivity" and that one with 0.35 microvolt sensitivity -- completely clueless that the AMBIENT NOISE on the HF bands from all sources combined, was far far far greater than these values.   
 
The noise factor gives a decibel (logarithmic) ratio that demonstrates how much the (receiver) amplifier degrades the pure signal to noise ratio of the laboratory input.   For VHF/UHF work (where there is much less background noise) one would prefer more like 3-4 dB NF.   For HF, AB4OJ (https://www.ab4oj.com/icom/nf.html ) calculates that if you can get below 16 dB you'll be fine, and he states:
 
"To ensure that it is always externally noise-limited, an HF receiver system, located at a quiet radio site and operating at the higher end of the HF range, should have F < 16 dB. This is equivalent to a -158 dBm/Hz noise floor or a sensitivity spec. of -113 dBm (0.5 µV) for 10 dB SINAD (equivalent to a -123 dBm noise floor) in a 3 kHz bandwidth."
 
In the presented schematic, Ashhar is using a very simple ring-diode input mixer as his first stage, which gives him the dynamic range he wanted.   If you drop down to about page 14 or 15 in this text on MIXERS, you can read the pro's and con's of double balanced ring diode mixers:   https://www.qsl.net/va3iul/RF%20Mixers/RF_Mixers.pdf    
 
Ashhar is using BAT54S surface mount shottky diodes with two diodes per device, likely to get the best matching possible without hand selecting (possibly far better than hand selection!).    The Vishay device also includes the cryptic note:  
These devices are protected by a PN junction
guardring against excessive voltage, such as
electrostatic discharges
(which sounds helpful to me!   I prefer that if I'm carrying this radio out into the boonies, the more protection against Bad Things, the better!)
 
Stealing some of Ashhar's work, a few years back I put together a small PCB for some 6th graders to solder up their own direct conversion DSB receivers.  We literally used individual glass-envelope diodes and I was amazed at what those receivers could pick up!!   Right from the antenna into the ring detector with an injected switching system from an Si5351.      The youngsters had GREAT FUN SOLDERING....and were less fascinated by the world of received signals.....   
 
In addition to being adequately sensitive for the RF environment you're working in, you prefer that your receiver isn't OVERLOADED.   Every design is a compromise....if you want absolute best in ALL CATEGORIES, be prepared to need a forkloader to go camping and $10,000 to purchase!    Fascinating data about the dynamic range of various supposedly-great receivers has been gathered and catalogued, and makes for fun perusing to see how crappy were the receivers I used as a lad!   http://sherweng.com/table.html
 
The 5-watt world isn't (currently) my kettle of fish, but we have folks in our group who really dig this QRP stuff.   To see something out there under $200 is probably causing a LOT of consternation among a few manufacturers.   A year or so ago when Ashhar come out with the sBitx I told our little group of hams in Alachua County Florida that this new sdr technology was a game changer, and it looks like that is becoming ever more true!  
 
Gordon KX4Z
 
 


Re: Capacitor on irf510 sbitx

 

Great!!!

On Dec 30, 2024, at 17:03, bretnemeth via groups.io <bretnemeth@...> wrote:


I kept thinking that the software could also have a problem. So I flashed the 4.2 software and sure enough it works now.
At 50% drive on 20 meters I am getting 10 watts out with the mic set at 50. CW works great. Maybe the memory card had
a glitch. Thanks for your help Gordon but it looks good now. Guess I got lucky.


Re: Capacitor on irf510 sbitx

 

I kept thinking that the software could also have a problem. So I flashed the 4.2 software and sure enough it works now.
At 50% drive on 20 meters I am getting 10 watts out with the mic set at 50. CW works great. Maybe the memory card had
a glitch. Thanks for your help Gordon but it looks good now. Guess I got lucky.


Re: Capacitor on irf510 sbitx

 

I have some other radios. xiegu x6100 good enough. I have some 50v ceramic caps. I have a 100 pf.


Re: Capacitor on irf510 sbitx

 

OK, so you’ve got some DC connectivity

Do you have another receiver anywhere?

Do you have a capacitor somewhere, anywhere between 100 pF and 0.1 Uf  that is rated for 50 V or more?  If you do, we can wire it in series with your AC voltmeter and start doing some tests.





On Dec 30, 2024, at 15:54, bretnemeth via groups.io <bretnemeth@...> wrote:


I set the bias with my amp meter. That seemed to work. There is no output on the external swr meter. It doesn't show anything it the 2 watt mode.
I have a good volt meter. The cans do get warm. They are about 85F or more. The little circuit board that is close to a big cap and the red power switch wires gets about 100F.


Re: Capacitor on irf510 sbitx

 

I set the bias with my amp meter. That seemed to work. There is no output on the external swr meter. It doesn't show anything it the 2 watt mode.
I have a good volt meter. The cans do get warm. They are about 85F or more. The little circuit board that is close to a big cap and the red power switch wires gets about 100F.


Re: Capacitor on irf510 sbitx

 

Great going Gordon , hope these lessons continue to it's logical conclusion.

It'll surely help someone and me offcourse.

de VU2UPX 

On Tue, 31 Dec, 2024, 1:47 am Gordon Gibby KX4Z via groups.io, <docvacuumtubes=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
OK 

1.  I’m assuming you were able to adjust the idle current with the bias potentiometer and get expected results. If not, then there could be a DC disconnection somewhere in the power amplifier stage.

2.  Those four metal cans to the left of the power amplifier stage are the driver stage. They should get pretty warm or even hot within 15 seconds if you put the radio into any single side band mode and key the microphone. Even if you don’t say anything. If they don’t, then there is some problem with the DC connections to the driver stage.

3.  Do you have any other means to measure the output of the transmitter? A SWR meter or anything similar? If so, try to get some kind of a read on whether there’s any real power coming out even if it is only 100 Milli Watts or so.   

Do you hear anything in another receiver tune to the same frequency? Usually, you’ll hear something if there’s any real power out put

4.   Do you have a voltmeter?






On Dec 30, 2024, at 15:00, bretnemeth via groups.io <bretnemeth=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:


It receives fine. I can hear everything that it should with an antenna.
 
When I transmit in any mode I see that it looks like it is transmitting on the screen but it shows 0 watts and 1.0 SWR. Doesn't matter what mode I transmit on. 


Re: Capacitor on irf510 sbitx

 

OK 

1.  I’m assuming you were able to adjust the idle current with the bias potentiometer and get expected results. If not, then there could be a DC disconnection somewhere in the power amplifier stage.

2.  Those four metal cans to the left of the power amplifier stage are the driver stage. They should get pretty warm or even hot within 15 seconds if you put the radio into any single side band mode and key the microphone. Even if you don’t say anything. If they don’t, then there is some problem with the DC connections to the driver stage.

3.  Do you have any other means to measure the output of the transmitter? A SWR meter or anything similar? If so, try to get some kind of a read on whether there’s any real power coming out even if it is only 100 Milli Watts or so.   

Do you hear anything in another receiver tune to the same frequency? Usually, you’ll hear something if there’s any real power out put

4.   Do you have a voltmeter?






On Dec 30, 2024, at 15:00, bretnemeth via groups.io <bretnemeth@...> wrote:


It receives fine. I can hear everything that it should with an antenna.
 
When I transmit in any mode I see that it looks like it is transmitting on the screen but it shows 0 watts and 1.0 SWR. Doesn't matter what mode I transmit on. 


Re: zBitx features SWR / Power meter

 

Thanks Ashhar


Re: Capacitor on irf510 sbitx

 

It receives fine. I can hear everything that it should with an antenna.
 
When I transmit in any mode I see that it looks like it is transmitting on the screen but it shows 0 watts and 1.0 SWR. Doesn't matter what mode I transmit on. 


Re: Capacitor on irf510 sbitx

 

We all understand!!   

1.  Does it RECEIVE?   If you put an antenna on it, do you HEAR recognizable signals?    
2.  What exactly does it do when you try to transmit (specify mode, and what you see on the screen; for example, if you tell it you are in CW and have a paddle, and press the mic button, you should see a string of dashes or dots flying past.   

Gordon


On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 2:41 PM bretnemeth via groups.io <bretnemeth=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
That's a bit over my head. I would rather buy a new board than go that deep. I'll dig around a bit but if it requires equipment I don't have it's over.


Re: Capacitor on irf510 sbitx

 

That's a bit over my head. I would rather buy a new board than go that deep. I'll dig around a bit but if it requires equipment I don't have it's over.


Re: Capacitor on irf510 sbitx

 

time to break out the oscilloscope or build an "rf probe" if you don't have one, so you can begin to diagnose with a simple $6 digital voltmeter.
Lots of learning opportunities!    There are some charts (Somewhere on all the amassed knowledge base) of typical signal levels and voltages, that will help you.......

Took me MONTHS to solve a thorny problem with one of my units (which I might have been the cause of, so not blaming anyone else)

Gordon KX4Z


On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 1:06 PM bretnemeth via groups.io <bretnemeth=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
One of the legs broke on one diode. So I ordered more. Only problem is I put everything back together and set the bias. Still no power out. Starting to think I blew another fet or maybe there is a software problem. I have read about some peoples radios not working due to software.


Re: Capacitor on irf510 sbitx

 

One of the legs broke on one diode. So I ordered more. Only problem is I put everything back together and set the bias. Still no power out. Starting to think I blew another fet or maybe there is a software problem. I have read about some peoples radios not working due to software.


Re: Capacitor on irf510 sbitx


On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 03:10 PM, bretnemeth wrote:
i was reading they should show some continuity
in one direction.
 
For what it's worth, they are right that standard diodes have some continuity measured in one direction and nothing in the other direction. TVS diodes like the ones used in the sBitx V3s don't show any continuity at all unless you apply more than 18.5V then they conduct, so if yours are not showing any continuity they are probably okay. It also doesn't matter what direction you install them, they are not polarity sensitive like a regular diode. If you have them I would install them, we can use all the protection we can get with the final MOSFETs. It wont hurt anything.
 
Joel
N6ALT


sBitX V3 Microphone input

 

I’ve been trying different microphone combos with the microphone input and the thing is — I can’t figure out how to get the PTT on the mike line to work (running Dexx’s 4.2 btw).

The ring on the connector seems to trigger PTT when the signal floats, which I can get from just touching a wire connected to the ring. A normal PTT is a ground — what does this ring need to see? a specific voltage? is it sensing a resistance level?  I note it seems to be running -2.4V…grounding doesn’t work… how can I trigger it from a button?

Or are there other ways to trigger PTT?
 
With some mikes like my motorola, the PTT simply connects the audio circuit, so I’d like to be able to sense that and send a trigger to the PTT.


Re: Operating FT8 from a different country #sBITX_v3

 


On Dec 30, 2024, at 16:14, HA3HZ <gyula@...> wrote:

On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 01:08 PM, Support HF Signal wrote:
This bug exists when you try to enter the callsign from within the sBitx app. You can edit the user_settings.ini to add the 9A/ prefix. We hope this solves your problem with the prefix. You are spot on on about update commands.
 
Feel free to reach out to us if you have any other questions.
If you add it, you won't get ahead, because when someone answers your CQ like this, for example:
9A/W6ABD DE HA3HZ JN96 , then this text will be displayed in the reception like this: <...> DE HA3HZ JN96
If the QSO is successful, then the LOG will show <...> instead of the callsign. So it's not as simple as you answered here. I had a lot of trouble with this until I changed the monitor to an external hdmi and from then on I could use an external program (wsjtx or jtdx), for which this / does not cause any problems.

Yes you are right, changing settings by hand will seem to work, but it won’t send the packets correctly with such callsigns.

I think ft8_lib is incomplete in this way, and I had a shot at trying to fix it one time:  https://github.com/ec1oud/ft8_lib.  I didn’t succeed, and didn’t get back to it yet either.  I had to operate with a prefix for the summer and fall until I got my Norwegian callsign, but it will come up again when traveling (and the zbitx will be handy for traveling).  So there’s a starting point if someone else wants to help dig into it.